WE THE PEOPLE are standing up! We are the ones being murdered in the streets! We are protesting! We are boycotting! Congress needs to stand with us!!! They need to DO THEIR JOB!!
Yes!!!! God help us if the Democrats don't press on this. They often waste opportunities to follow up on truly important issues, this being the latest and most heinous issue.
I get it, but these were caught on camera nationally and more recently and are fresher in many people's minds. It doesn't make it less important for Keith Porter, but I hadn't heard about him until very recently, so the media coverage was the one that lacked justice.
Hey, Robert. Thanks for sharing your opinion. I wasn't aware that I was making excuses.I do see an inequality of the isolated heinous incidents not captured during a protest and that many of those "incidents" include those with darker complections and skin pigments. So the comment that I made wasn't meant to be an excuse or even a justification, but just mentioning the case of the media not covering individual incidents enough for me and others to be aware of. But you do have a point! Would the same coverage be given to non-whites had they experienced what Renee Good and Alex Pretti had? ( I believe so, as we did when we rallied on behalf of George Floyd's shameful murder, but thats just me.)
I think the witnessing of blatant non-sensical idiotic murders in broad daylight, make it impossible to forget or to overlook. And yet...those who were deported to El Salvador, Libya, etc.,
and/or held in American "holding" cells are inadvertently being killed or risk death by the inhumane conditions that they endure.
To be fair, Ellen, you didn't create the excuse. It's just the most convenient excuse floating around these days. I just think the extra second to say or type Keith Porter wouldn't kill anybody. Then again, this regime kills for less. So, what do I even know any more?
I will do my best to make sure if I have to die too, that my death will include a snuff film so people can stay arguing about it, and I'll go down talk mad shit. They hate nothing more than a mixed black man with a big mouth.
When this is all said and done, I would like to see a national monument with all of the names. All of them, or as many as we can document.
And to be fair to you, Robert, (and to Keith Porter,) I actually had to look him up. I often turn off media during holidays and weekends, so news slips by me unless “Monday morning quarterbacks” bring it to the forum or write BREAKING NEWS.
I feel ashamed that I didn't know. It made me realize that while my family and I may have various struggles in our lives, we need to keep apprised re: the news, each and EVERY DAY. Even if the MADNESS of ICE hasn’t reached us directly, it is now more important than ever to be part of the change required yo be awsre and to protect ALL of our our members if society.
As it is, without Substack or YOUTUBE shorts, when I get a chance each day, I don't know the “goings on” as regularly as I might. THAT IS AN EXCUSE, my bad.
Thanks for at least having a discussion and for making me reflect. And you're also right; collective society (okay, I’m saying it: WHITE SOCIETY and its media ties have subconsciously (or consciously) reported what affects THEM, or at least I think thats the case over my lifetime. Whites are waking up at least- George Floyd, sadly became the unfortunate poster child for getting “woke.” Whites and more need to be awake and aware, more than ever, to our neighbors’ suffering regardless of race, creed, color, sexual persuasion, etc.
I really appreciate you not only taking the time to really think about it with an open heart, but then also taking the time to write all of that out. I know it was a lot of energy to give to a stranger on the internet. So, thank you for that and for saying his name. Thus far, most in your position simply take the things I say as an opportunity to stoke my flames rather than step outside their own comfortabikity and try to understand. You're a rare gem in my world, Ellen.
Ergo, I gotta say I've dealt with a lot of shame over events of my deployment for Bush's war for profit. That shit almost killed me. So, I don't recommend that at all. Before you lean into the shame of it all, consider for a moment, that I AM black, and yet I still didn't find out about Porter until after I found out about Good. That was the part that hurt the most. This affects me and my offspring, and I don't take any days off from the circus. So, I thought should've known. I found out when a random black creator I'd never heard of before was shown on whatever fyp I was on, the day after Renee Good got murdered.
As for the melanin content of content creators and general media we each individually choose to follow, my kid's white mom pointed out that she tunes into the black content creators to stay apprised of what's going on with us, and I think that's perhaps my problem. I keep expecting too much from the wrong sources. I think I just need to take some time to reavaluate where I spend my social media attention at, because it hasn't been working for me this year.
Anyways. Thank you again for being the kind of ally that my agitators say I can't get by being mad. ❤️🌞🖖🏾
I think it’s VITAL that we are inclusive of all those victimized by ICE & CBP. Please continue pressing this point, and I as a middle-aged white guy here in the Twin Cities will, too! We think of Renee & Alex here, but ought to include Keith Porter. Shared experiences of mistreatment draw us closer as a political force! There have been many others that were transported to detention then died/were killed! I hope that this is incorrect, but there might be more killings unknown or in the future. We’ll need to make more space on the list ☹️
Well, said, Roger. I love how when Tess expressed concern over the inequality of media exposure for Porter, you offered agrreance and support, rather than attack. If more people had similar attitudes, I'd be less pissed off and demoralized all the time.
Hey, thanks! At my next demonstration, at which we are going to "confess" to "crimes" here in MN, I'm thinking about stating something about forgetting to put Keith Porter Jr.'s name on my protest signs. 💙🙂 I might lead off with my decision to film vehicles when they approached an intersection shutdown in the week after Renee Good's murder.
All the best to you! I learned more about that NYE homicide & I'm carrying a sign for Keith Porter, Jr., at civil resistance actions here in MN from now on.
Of course, he matters! The media was more present for the protests, I think, and more people witnessed Good and Pretti's murders, than those carousing on New Year's...NOT THAT THAT SHOULD BE AN EXCUSE.
Wanting Keith Porter memorialized isn't MAGA. YOU sound like a white person who's never had to worry about erasure. Be better. After all, brown and black people don't have your privilege. Think before responding.
Making assumptions about the people you meet in text is foolish. Pick your battles. This is not the battle to pick. Nor the time. The fact that we're having this debate on this post in this fashion is hurting both causes and we agree with both of them.
Be humble and heed your own advice rather than pick fights with your allies.
I'm fairly certain I was correct. Only an entitled white man would make a statement like yours. I know. I'm also a white person. I've heard men like you talk and you say the quiet part out loud.
It's just not the battle to pick. You won a debate with yourself. There are no winners in you being right. You're fighting a tree and I'm trying to get you to see the forest, but again, you already know you're right.
You have no idea what a real dick I can be to people. It was never about winning a debate with some tandom guy. Interesting choice of words, though. Forest and the trees. I fancy myself more like the mycelium underground, connecting to every tree in a forest, warning trees of impending danger everywhere I go. You could've just kept scrolling, and I would've never seen you, but you just had to tell me how YOU think I should think and act. Now, the forest sees you and the disease you carry. So, fuck off. How's that for charged?
It's hard to feel like I have any allies, when the media only wants to talk about the collateral damage, white people, while continuing to gloss over the brown people. If you think that's ok, you and MAGA can both fvck right off.
You have allies, Robert. This is something I think about a lot. That's why I'm protesting. I'm an old white woman who feels like it's not your responsibility to educate white people. You're busy trying to get by when state sponsored terrorism is hindering your life. Take care of yourself and your family, and please reach out for help. Indivisible in your town will try to assist you, if you're stuck inside your home. They'll go to the grocery store, and try to assist you in errands, etc..
Thank you for your service, Tess. Truth be told. Having spent 11 years of my life in service to this nation, I refuse to alter my lifestyle for these racist fucks. I take "Give me liberty, or give me death." to heart, and I'll die on that hill, whether it be from old age or being at the wrong place at the wrong time.
That's some charged language. Maybe your problems are less about race and more about you being a dick to people? I'm not the media. But you're making me your enemy in your interactions with me. And you're making this post racial and about you. You're not going to grow your allies like this. If you want to change the world, let's do that. But this isn't the way. You're setting our cause back with this.
Like I really need some random guy to be my ally. If we can't even have an honest conversation about the racism in this country, in every ugly form it shows itself, then you are not my ally, and you can stop pretending like you could've been.
Your not mistaken. The Quota iS 3,000 per day!! Thousands more have died or are dying or sent to foreign countries to rot. They all matter.! And, WHERE’s our babies, all the children??? There’s two “Tender Age” detention centers in Texas-all very young children. WTF are they doing with them?? Whose compassionately watching over them: caring for them? Every single death/disappearance matters!!! Keith Porter-say his name😪🙏.
Keith Porter, and those are very important questions to be asking, but the answers are ugly ASF. It's sad and infuriating coming from a regime that preaches pro life while supporting a baby killing rapist.
Everyone is leaving out a powerful weapon in fighting what ICE is doing: the FACTS.
Will deporting undocumented immigrants make America safer?
Reams of research has shown that immigrants, both documented & undocumented, commit very few violent crimes. Most violent crimes in the US are committed by homegrown, born-in-the-USA Americans.
Want to live in a safe part of town? Move to where the immigrants are living. Want to make America safer? Allow more immigrants in.
No country should allow ice into their country they are domestic terriorist and murderers. They lie to fit their plane. Look what they have done to us in less than a year.
You need to start pushing the US Nuremberg Trials. We need to get prepared to have them and to mete out the death penalty for the criminals in and supporting the Trump Crime and Terrorist Regime. Bovino and Noem must be the first two examples made for all the other heinous criminals in this Regime of what they are going to get.
You don't suppose that Kristi Noem had to do stuff or at least promise to, in exchange for keeping her job, during that 2-hour meeting with T*?! I WOULD NOT want to be a fly on the wall in that room!
WE THE PEOPLE are standing up! We are the ones being murdered in the streets! We are protesting! We are boycotting! Congress needs to stand with us!!! They need to DO THEIR JOB!!
There must be WARRANTS! Warrants for Immigration violations and Warrants to enter our homes and businesses.
Sidenote- masked unidentified men breaking in my home without a warrant will be met with my protection. I do not know if they are ICE.
At the very least warrants! And no masks. And ID. But I would rather not ICE at all!! Remember to call your Senators to keep up the pressure!!
Yes!!!! God help us if the Democrats don't press on this. They often waste opportunities to follow up on truly important issues, this being the latest and most heinous issue.
What? No mention by the white guys about the black guy, Keith Porter? Big shock...
I get it, but these were caught on camera nationally and more recently and are fresher in many people's minds. It doesn't make it less important for Keith Porter, but I hadn't heard about him until very recently, so the media coverage was the one that lacked justice.
Excuses are like assholes. Everyone has one and they all stink. Uncle Sam taught me that one in the Army. It really stuck with me.
Hey, Robert. Thanks for sharing your opinion. I wasn't aware that I was making excuses.I do see an inequality of the isolated heinous incidents not captured during a protest and that many of those "incidents" include those with darker complections and skin pigments. So the comment that I made wasn't meant to be an excuse or even a justification, but just mentioning the case of the media not covering individual incidents enough for me and others to be aware of. But you do have a point! Would the same coverage be given to non-whites had they experienced what Renee Good and Alex Pretti had? ( I believe so, as we did when we rallied on behalf of George Floyd's shameful murder, but thats just me.)
I think the witnessing of blatant non-sensical idiotic murders in broad daylight, make it impossible to forget or to overlook. And yet...those who were deported to El Salvador, Libya, etc.,
and/or held in American "holding" cells are inadvertently being killed or risk death by the inhumane conditions that they endure.
To be fair, Ellen, you didn't create the excuse. It's just the most convenient excuse floating around these days. I just think the extra second to say or type Keith Porter wouldn't kill anybody. Then again, this regime kills for less. So, what do I even know any more?
I will do my best to make sure if I have to die too, that my death will include a snuff film so people can stay arguing about it, and I'll go down talk mad shit. They hate nothing more than a mixed black man with a big mouth.
When this is all said and done, I would like to see a national monument with all of the names. All of them, or as many as we can document.
And to be fair to you, Robert, (and to Keith Porter,) I actually had to look him up. I often turn off media during holidays and weekends, so news slips by me unless “Monday morning quarterbacks” bring it to the forum or write BREAKING NEWS.
I feel ashamed that I didn't know. It made me realize that while my family and I may have various struggles in our lives, we need to keep apprised re: the news, each and EVERY DAY. Even if the MADNESS of ICE hasn’t reached us directly, it is now more important than ever to be part of the change required yo be awsre and to protect ALL of our our members if society.
As it is, without Substack or YOUTUBE shorts, when I get a chance each day, I don't know the “goings on” as regularly as I might. THAT IS AN EXCUSE, my bad.
Thanks for at least having a discussion and for making me reflect. And you're also right; collective society (okay, I’m saying it: WHITE SOCIETY and its media ties have subconsciously (or consciously) reported what affects THEM, or at least I think thats the case over my lifetime. Whites are waking up at least- George Floyd, sadly became the unfortunate poster child for getting “woke.” Whites and more need to be awake and aware, more than ever, to our neighbors’ suffering regardless of race, creed, color, sexual persuasion, etc.
Be well and take good care out there.
I really appreciate you not only taking the time to really think about it with an open heart, but then also taking the time to write all of that out. I know it was a lot of energy to give to a stranger on the internet. So, thank you for that and for saying his name. Thus far, most in your position simply take the things I say as an opportunity to stoke my flames rather than step outside their own comfortabikity and try to understand. You're a rare gem in my world, Ellen.
Ergo, I gotta say I've dealt with a lot of shame over events of my deployment for Bush's war for profit. That shit almost killed me. So, I don't recommend that at all. Before you lean into the shame of it all, consider for a moment, that I AM black, and yet I still didn't find out about Porter until after I found out about Good. That was the part that hurt the most. This affects me and my offspring, and I don't take any days off from the circus. So, I thought should've known. I found out when a random black creator I'd never heard of before was shown on whatever fyp I was on, the day after Renee Good got murdered.
As for the melanin content of content creators and general media we each individually choose to follow, my kid's white mom pointed out that she tunes into the black content creators to stay apprised of what's going on with us, and I think that's perhaps my problem. I keep expecting too much from the wrong sources. I think I just need to take some time to reavaluate where I spend my social media attention at, because it hasn't been working for me this year.
Anyways. Thank you again for being the kind of ally that my agitators say I can't get by being mad. ❤️🌞🖖🏾
👍🏼😠 It's sickening. He was the first mortality of ICE. Why isn't he mentioned? Doesn't he matter? He represents the citizens DHS are scapegoating.
I think it’s VITAL that we are inclusive of all those victimized by ICE & CBP. Please continue pressing this point, and I as a middle-aged white guy here in the Twin Cities will, too! We think of Renee & Alex here, but ought to include Keith Porter. Shared experiences of mistreatment draw us closer as a political force! There have been many others that were transported to detention then died/were killed! I hope that this is incorrect, but there might be more killings unknown or in the future. We’ll need to make more space on the list ☹️
Well, said, Roger. I love how when Tess expressed concern over the inequality of media exposure for Porter, you offered agrreance and support, rather than attack. If more people had similar attitudes, I'd be less pissed off and demoralized all the time.
Hey, thanks! At my next demonstration, at which we are going to "confess" to "crimes" here in MN, I'm thinking about stating something about forgetting to put Keith Porter Jr.'s name on my protest signs. 💙🙂 I might lead off with my decision to film vehicles when they approached an intersection shutdown in the week after Renee Good's murder.
(from Chris in MN)
Not sure if I made sense in my comment -- if not clear, it's probably because I haven't been sleeping great! Take care!
Be careful, brother. I don't want to have to add your name to the list.
All the best to you! I learned more about that NYE homicide & I'm carrying a sign for Keith Porter, Jr., at civil resistance actions here in MN from now on.
Of course, he matters! The media was more present for the protests, I think, and more people witnessed Good and Pretti's murders, than those carousing on New Year's...NOT THAT THAT SHOULD BE AN EXCUSE.
Is this really what you want to make this post about? Which side are you on? Maga?
Wanting Keith Porter memorialized isn't MAGA. YOU sound like a white person who's never had to worry about erasure. Be better. After all, brown and black people don't have your privilege. Think before responding.
Making assumptions about the people you meet in text is foolish. Pick your battles. This is not the battle to pick. Nor the time. The fact that we're having this debate on this post in this fashion is hurting both causes and we agree with both of them.
Be humble and heed your own advice rather than pick fights with your allies.
I'm fairly certain I was correct. Only an entitled white man would make a statement like yours. I know. I'm also a white person. I've heard men like you talk and you say the quiet part out loud.
It's just not the battle to pick. You won a debate with yourself. There are no winners in you being right. You're fighting a tree and I'm trying to get you to see the forest, but again, you already know you're right.
You have no idea what a real dick I can be to people. It was never about winning a debate with some tandom guy. Interesting choice of words, though. Forest and the trees. I fancy myself more like the mycelium underground, connecting to every tree in a forest, warning trees of impending danger everywhere I go. You could've just kept scrolling, and I would've never seen you, but you just had to tell me how YOU think I should think and act. Now, the forest sees you and the disease you carry. So, fuck off. How's that for charged?
"When people tell you who they are, listen."
-- Maya Angelou
It's hard to feel like I have any allies, when the media only wants to talk about the collateral damage, white people, while continuing to gloss over the brown people. If you think that's ok, you and MAGA can both fvck right off.
You have allies, Robert. This is something I think about a lot. That's why I'm protesting. I'm an old white woman who feels like it's not your responsibility to educate white people. You're busy trying to get by when state sponsored terrorism is hindering your life. Take care of yourself and your family, and please reach out for help. Indivisible in your town will try to assist you, if you're stuck inside your home. They'll go to the grocery store, and try to assist you in errands, etc..
Thank you for your service, Tess. Truth be told. Having spent 11 years of my life in service to this nation, I refuse to alter my lifestyle for these racist fucks. I take "Give me liberty, or give me death." to heart, and I'll die on that hill, whether it be from old age or being at the wrong place at the wrong time.
That's some charged language. Maybe your problems are less about race and more about you being a dick to people? I'm not the media. But you're making me your enemy in your interactions with me. And you're making this post racial and about you. You're not going to grow your allies like this. If you want to change the world, let's do that. But this isn't the way. You're setting our cause back with this.
Like I really need some random guy to be my ally. If we can't even have an honest conversation about the racism in this country, in every ugly form it shows itself, then you are not my ally, and you can stop pretending like you could've been.
Great ad !!!
Your not mistaken. The Quota iS 3,000 per day!! Thousands more have died or are dying or sent to foreign countries to rot. They all matter.! And, WHERE’s our babies, all the children??? There’s two “Tender Age” detention centers in Texas-all very young children. WTF are they doing with them?? Whose compassionately watching over them: caring for them? Every single death/disappearance matters!!! Keith Porter-say his name😪🙏.
Keith Porter, and those are very important questions to be asking, but the answers are ugly ASF. It's sad and infuriating coming from a regime that preaches pro life while supporting a baby killing rapist.
That's their whole strategy, though, isn't it? Overwhelm us into submission. I'll die first and piss off a few people before I do.
Everyone is leaving out a powerful weapon in fighting what ICE is doing: the FACTS.
Will deporting undocumented immigrants make America safer?
Reams of research has shown that immigrants, both documented & undocumented, commit very few violent crimes. Most violent crimes in the US are committed by homegrown, born-in-the-USA Americans.
Want to live in a safe part of town? Move to where the immigrants are living. Want to make America safer? Allow more immigrants in.
Keep brown people. Deport pedophiles.
Thank you 🙏
Do an ad on Steven miller We need to expose him!! Please please do!! Please!!!
No country should allow ice into their country they are domestic terriorist and murderers. They lie to fit their plane. Look what they have done to us in less than a year.
Chuck Schumer needs to go.
It gave me chills. Great job…thanks so much from a Minnesotan!
You need to start pushing the US Nuremberg Trials. We need to get prepared to have them and to mete out the death penalty for the criminals in and supporting the Trump Crime and Terrorist Regime. Bovino and Noem must be the first two examples made for all the other heinous criminals in this Regime of what they are going to get.
Thank you
You don't suppose that Kristi Noem had to do stuff or at least promise to, in exchange for keeping her job, during that 2-hour meeting with T*?! I WOULD NOT want to be a fly on the wall in that room!
I really think it's unfair that Keith Porter isn't mentioned. Not even a fucking footnote. Wth?
❤️🙏❤️🙏
Thank you!! 🙏 this has been so terrifying to see in our country. Beautiful people gunned down
Perfect Super Bowl ad.